Showing posts with label Roness. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Roness. Show all posts

Surname Saturday 2.0: The Ronesses



The Roness Family
 
I have very little information on this branch of my Norwegian family. My connection to this line comes from my grandfather's great-grandmother, Henrikke Roness. Henrikke was the second wife of Johan Petter Bordewich, and had four children with him, three after their marriage, and one before. I know little about her life, or how she ended up with Johan, as she is the age of one of his children, not to mention the above mentioned child out of wedlock.

Her firstborn was Johan's second child out of wedlock. He lost his wife when he was in his forties, already had ten living children, several of which were approaching adulthood. When he became involved with one of the family's help and got her pregnant, he considered marrying her, but his children insisted he send both the woman and her child away. Johan did, though he provided for his child throughout her childhood. He later became involved with Henrikke, and in 1858, she gave birth to their first child. Again, Johan's children blocked his attempt to marry, but this time he refused to send Henrikke and her child away. The couple married two years later, despite his children's' objections, and my great-great grandmother Leonharde Marine was born two years later. She was named for Johan's first wife.

The family has many fascinating stories about Johan, but I find myself wondering about this woman, who was not only willing to have a child out of wedlock in a family where many of the members obviously did not appreciate her presence, but ended up marrying a man twenty years her senior and proceeded to have three more children with him. Granted, such disparate ages weren't entirely uncommon in the "old world," but by this time they were becoming less and less common, but I still think it makes her an interesting person to look at.

Unfortunately, I don't know anything for certain about her family, aside from one record and what I have found online in others' trees, which unfortunately tells me little. I only have one generation before hers in my tree, though I think I have found trees that go much further back. For now, I have ended with what little I have found in the records, (her wedding record, birth record, and her parents' wedding record) but I always keep looking when I am working on this branch of the tree.

My Roness line for those interested:

* Henrik Hansen, born 1793, married Susanne Pedersdatter in 1819 in Norway. I only have Henrikke listed for them, though I am uncertain where the Roness comes in. One of my Scandinavian friends mentioned that the spelling is unusual, and I did at one point find another spelling, Ronæs, which he said sounds much more plausible. I do not know when Henrik died.

* Henrikke was born Pauline Henrikke Roness in 1828 in Trondheim, Norway. She married Johan Bordewich 1860 in Nordland, Norway. They had four children together: Ida Amalie, Leonhard Marine, Anna Magdalena, and Petter Roness. She outlived Johan and died in 1892 in Nordland, Norway.
+ Ida was born 1858 in Nordland, Norway. She married Peder Martin Olsen 1881 in Nordland. They had six children: Johan Peter, Johan Henry Sofus, Margit Elise Roness, Astrid Susanne Groth, Halfrid, and Hans Henrik Bordewich. I have two more generations after her children, but no information beyond that. She died in 1930.
+ Leonharde was born 1861 in Nordland, Norway. She married her cousin Henrik Bergithon Bordewich (later Bordewick) in 1887. They had three sons: Bjarne, Harald, and Hans Henrik. For more about their family, consult the Bordewick surname post. Leonharde died in 1944, shortly after meeting her first great-grandchild.
+ Anna was born 1862. She married Aksel Magnus Kjelsberg (later Kelsberg) in 1890. They had five children: Astrid, Gudrun, Peter Bordewick, Sverre Hegge (called Al), and Harald Bordewich. I have two more generations after her children, but no information beyond that. She died in 1949.
+ Peter was born 1867. He married Margaret Taylor Priebke in 1891 in Scotland. They had seven children: Frederick Johan, Anne Cormack, Peter Magnus Roness, Eric, Cedric Theodore, John Stuart, and one boy that didn't last past infancy. I have information on two generations after his children, but no information beyond that. He died in 1956 in London, England.
+ Leonharde and Anna both ended up in Canada, and Peter lived in the UK for his entire adult life. Only Ida remained in Norway with her family.

What I don't know:

* I would like to know where the Roness comes from, and to firm up the information about Henrikke's parents.

* I'd also love to learn if she had any siblings.

* I'd also love any information about Henrikke and Johan's children aside from Leonharde's family. I've made some contact with the Kelsburgs, but I don't know much about the other two branches. We've lost touch, given the fact that they are in Europe, and we in America. So any contact with anyone from those branches would be great.

More on this line:



Where We're From – Norway

To everyone who follows this blog—sorry there have been no postings of late. Things have been kind of difficult for me, and this posting in particular was giving me a rough time. It's all sorted now, though, so hopefully I'm back on track.


Unlike my Irish roots, which I had little information on, the Norwegian lines is one of the best-mapped in my family tree. My grandfather even went so far as to do a bit of research on the German town our name comes from. For the direct line, we can trace back to Germany, but most of the family we know of lived in Norway for many generations. Four generations of the direct line were born there, as well as many Norwegian roots on the female lines on the tree (and a few more German).

Because this line is so well-mapped, I have a good deal of documentation, though I have yet to get through all of it. But it does mean I have more of the stories surrounding the lives of my Norwegian family than many of the others I have already posted.

There actually is more than this, but I have yet to prove that branch for certain, and it gets very murky after a few generations, so I have left it off this list. If, at some point, I ever do confirm some of those connections, I will probably redo this map, but as it is, it's still one of the larger ones I have.


A map of the locations (and do check back at the old maps—I've updated them all to embed them in the entries now):

View My Norwegian Roots in a larger map

1. Oslo
Though my line of the family had left Norway by the time she moved here, this is my most recent connection to Norway. My great-great grandmother, Kaja (Angell) Bordewick moved here. I think she may have done so after her husband's death, though I have nothing at this time to confirm that.

2. Lofoten Islands
Many generations of my grandfather's family were born here, the most recent of which in our direct line was my great-grandfather, Bjarne Bordewick. His family's travels from Norway to Vancouver, B.C, Canada can be read here.

His grandfather, Johan Petter, settled there as a young man and took a job with a man who ran a thriving business in the area. When the man was forced to move on, Johan took over his business, and became quite prosperous. At least three generations of his line after him were born there.

2. Henningsvær, Nordland
This is where my great-great grandfather, Henrick Bergthon Bordewick was born, and where his mother in law, Henrikke (Roness) Bordewich died.

3. Lyngvær, Nordland
This is where Johan Petter Bordewich, his first wife, and his mother all died.

4. Vågan, Nordland
Johan Petter and his second wife married here, as did his son, Hans Henrik and his wife Kaja. Hans Henrik was born here in 1834.

5. Grane, Helgeland
This is where my great-great grandmother Kaja Bordewick was born.

6. Vikholmen
I believe this is where Hans Henrich, the father of Johan Petter, shipwrecked in 1815. He and his men made it to shore, but froze to death awaiting rescue.

7. Bergen
This is where my great-great-great grandmother's mother and grandmother were born, and where both her grandparents died.

8. Trondheim, Sor-Trondelag
This is where most of Johan Petter's mother's family was from for many generations before her.


And that's all I have at the moment, though as I said, I do have a few that I'm currently looking into.

As always, if any of my family reading this knows more about this branch, particularly if you have any records or documentation, I'd love to get together to exchange info.

Next up: Waystations (ie, those places my family lived for a time, but never fully settled in.)

Brick Walls--a different listing

I found a great post by Barbara in Life from the Roots about her top ten brick walls, and really liked the format, so I thought I'd do a similar list of my own, though I ended up with twelve. These are my great-great or great-great-great grandparents. Any help would be hugely appreciated on all of these, especially if you have the same (or a similar) surname in your own charts.


Leon SENEFT (Need more about him, his children, his parents)
Born before 1870, possibly in Galicia, Eastern Europe
Died between 1919-1922
Married Mindel HILINGER before 1883
Had 5 known children, 3 sons, 2 daughters: Alex, Annie, Jennie, Jack and ?, all born in Galicia, I believe
Emmigrated to England before WWI, lived in London through the war

Mindel HILINGER (Need more about her, her children, her parents)
Born before 1870, possibly in Galicia, Eastern Europe
Died before 1922
Married Leon SENEFT before 1883
Had 5 known children, 3 sons, 2 daughters: Alex, Annie, Jennie, Jack and ?, all born in Galicia, I believe
Emmigrated to England before WWI, lived in London through the war

Benzion KRESCH (Need more about him, his children, his parents)
Born before 1875, likely in Czudek, Galicia
Died before 1919
Married Fiege Golda REICH before 1892
Had at least two children, 2 daughters, Dora and Minna, and possibly a son as well, all born in Galicia, I believe
Was a Rabbi and teacher in Galicia

Feige Golda REICH (Need more about her, her children, her parents)
Born before 1875, likely in Czudek, Galicia
Died about1929, I believe in Frankfurt, Germany
Married Benzion KRESCH before 1892
Had at least two children, 2 daughters, Dora and Minna, and possibly a son as well, all born in Galicia, I believe

Henrikke RONESS (Or as I have also found Pauline Henrikke Hendricsdatter RONÆS) (need anything about her parents)
Born 24 June 1830 in Trondheim, Sor Trondelag, Norway
Died 1892 in Henningsvær, Nordland, Norway
Married Johan Petter Bordevick on 27 September 1860 in Vaagan Parish, Nordland, Norway, his second (I believe) wife
Had four children with him: 3 daughters, 1 son: Ida Amalie, Leonharde Marie, Anna Magdalena, and Petter Magnus Roness

Robert James PARK (need more about him and his parents)
Born 24 June 1852, Ireland (possible locations—Belfast/Antrim, Dublin, or Ballymena)
Died 6 October 1930, Vancouver, BC, Canada
Parents listed as John PARK and ? DUNLOP
Married Elizabeth CURRAN abt 1883 in either Ireland or Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
Had at least nine children, 2 who died in infancy, 2 sons, 5 daughters: Robert, Elizabeth, Mary, Rhoda, Margaret, George, and Florence, all born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Emigrated from Ireland to Philadelphia abt 1883, then from Philadelphia to Ireland after 1903, then from Belfast to Vancouver in 1914

Thomas CURRAN (need more about him, his parents, and his kids)
Born before 1845 in Ireland (Belfast?)
No death date at this time
Married Jane "Jennie" BLAIR bef 1861
They had at least 3 daughters, and possibly 1 more daughter and 3 sons, possibly more: Elizabeth, Sarah and Rhoda are certain, also possibly Anna (may be Elizabeth's middle or first name), John, Thomas, Joseph, all born in Antrim, Ireland

Jane "Jennie" BLAIR (need more about her, her parents, and her kids)
Born before 1845 in Ireland (Belfast?)
No death date at this time
Married Thomas CURRAN bef 1861
They had at least 3 daughters, and possibly 1 more daughter and 3 sons, possibly more: Elizabeth, Sarah and Rhoda are certain, also possibly Anna (may be Elizabeth's middle or first name), John, Thomas, Joseph, all born in Antrim, Ireland

Bejamin JONES (need more about his parents)
Born 24 December 1865, Caio, Wales
Died before 1915
Married Hannah GRIFFITHS before 1882
Had 6 children, 4 sons and 2 daughters: Daniel, David, Joseph, Jack, William, May and Sophia, all born in Southern Wales (Merthur Tydful, I believe)
Farmer

Hannah GRIFFITHS (need more about her parents)
Born February 1863, Newcastle Emlyn, South Wales
Died about 1933, Merthur Tydful, Wales
Married Benjamin JONES before 1882
Had 6 children, 4 sons and 2 daughters: Daniel, David, Joseph, Jack, William, May and Sophia, all born in Southern Wales (Merthur Tydful, I believe)

Hugh ROBERTS (need more about him, his parents, any other children)
Born before 1830, possibly in Northern Wales
No death information
Married Ellen PUGH (or possibly GRIFFITHS) before 1845
Only 1 child known, daughter Selina

Ellen PUGH (or possibly GRIFFITHS) (need more about her, her parents, any other children)
Born before 1830, possibly in Northern Wales
No death information
Married Hugh ROBERTS before 1845
Only 1 child known, daughter Selina

RONESS (Norway)

Meaning/Pronunciation: Pronunciation: Ro-Ness Meaning: Unable to find a meaning at this time.

Origin: For my family, this name comes from the Norwegian branch of the family.

Variations: None that I am aware of.

Relation to me: This is my mother's father's father's mother's mother.

Ancestors:
i: Roness, Henrikke, 1830 – 1892, Trondheim, Sor Trondelag, Norway; Johan Petter Bordevick, 3 daughters, 1 son

Looking for:
As you can see, I have only this ancestor on this branch.

In the original family tree I was given, she was named as Henrikke Roness, but on her daughter (my g-g-grandmother)'s baptism record, her mother is listed as Henrikke Ronts (I believe this is a miss-read of the original record, as it doesn’t sound Scandinavian to me. On that same record, her husband is listed as Johan Peter Bordeviksen, which is a bit too unique a name not to be my Johan Petter. Unfortunately, there are no parents at all listed on Leonharde's death record.

On their childrens' birth records at Familysearch, she is listed variously as Rones or Ronds, but always with the first name Henrikke.

From the Bordewich side of the family, I have birth and death dates and a location, and also the name of Pauline Henrikke Hendricsdatter Roness, which unfortunately gets me little further. Nor am I certain where they got this name from, as they got no further back that I can tell, and I no longer have contact with this side (though I am constantly looking for them again).

I have also begun running into another possible family with Johan as the head—I've found records for another Leonharde Marie Johansdatter born to Johan Peter Bordevick and a Magdelena Bruun Bordevick. So now I'm not sure if I have the right parents, or if these are the same woman, or something else entirely (though really, this is a very unusual name for Norway, so I have to believe that this is the same Johan Peter).

The date I have given for Johan and Henrikke's marriage is 1860, two years after the birth of their first daughter (Ida Amalie), while the Leonharde above was born in 1859. My Leonharde was born in 1861, so I'm relatively certain that the two are not the same, as his first wife's final child (she died from complications of childbirth, I believe, given the date of her own and her last child's death) was also named Leonharde Marine. The first Leonharde born and died in 1846, more than ten years before both of her sisters' births, if they are indeed both Johan's daughters.

Any help in sorting out Johan Peter Bordevick/Bordevickson/Hansen Bordevick and his families, would be more than welcome.

ETA: As of yesterday, I did find a record that listed her as Pauline Henrikke Ronæs, which one of my Scandinavian friends informs me sounds more realistic for that place and time than Roness. Still nothing else yet, though.

About this blog

This blog is maintained by two sisters who have had a life long interest in geneology.
Mika writes here mostly about our family (Hansen, Hillinger, Bordewick, Park, etc), and her search for more information.
Shannon mostly uses this space as a place to make the many stories written about and by her husband's family (Holly, Walker, Walpole, etc) available to the rest of the family, present and future.

Our blog is named Oh Spusch! mostly because Shannon is bad at naming things. The first post I put up includes a story about the time Walker's great grandfather took his whole family out to see a play and the littlest kept saying "Oh! Spusch!" No one ever figured out what she meant by that.