Brick Wall People Redux – Part 10 – John Park

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Name: John Park
Birth: unknown
Death: unknown
Marriage: unknown
Location(s): Ireland
Relation to me: John Park was my maternal grandfather's mother's paternal grandfather, which makes him 6th generation before me.
Alias(es): None known at this time.
Parents: unknown

Spouse(s): ? Dunlop
Children: Robert James Park
Other Family: none known

Details: I have almost no information on him, and even less on his wife. According to my great-great grandfather's entry on a Northern Irish census before the family moved to Canada, he was born in Antrim in Northern Ireland, so I could assume that that is where they lived, but as of this moment, I certainly can't assume John was ever there, because there's no way of telling where he was or even if he was alive when his son was born. So all I know is that he was Irish and has a rather Scottish/English surname.

Proof:
1) My only current proof of John's existence is his son's death record in Vancouver, BC. At this time, all I have for him is a name, and his wife's surname, and where his son was born (from another bit of proof, but since John's not mentioned on it, I won't use it as proof for him at this time). Unfortunately, John Park is all too common a name. All I can do is hope to eventually find more about him.

Needed:

As you can see, there has been no change on this branch at all. Every other wall on this generation, I've found at least a few more proofs of the ancestor, but with John and his wife, Robert's death record is still the only piece of proof I have they even existed.

I still have absolutely no BMD info for John, and only a vague notion that he was alive in 1850 or 1851, as that is about when his son was born. Irish records are far more spotty for that sort of information, especially when the family is Protestant, which mine was. At this time, all I can think of to do is keep trying when I find new sources on his son, and hope that more information will reveal itself.

If my family or anyone out there has any more information on his family, I'd love to talk to you about him. I'd love to learn more if at all possible.

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Brick Wall People Redux – Part 9 – Ole Larsen

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Name: Ole Larsen
Birth: my records list his birthdate as about 1812.
Death: Sometime around or just before 1900, I believe.
Marriage: April 21, 1851 in Slots-Bjergby, Denmark.
Location(s): Slots-Bjergby, Denmark; Minnesota, USA
Relation to me: Ole Larsen was my paternal grandmother's mother's mother's father, which makes him 6th generation before me.
Alias(es): None known at this time.
Parents: unknown
Spouse(s): Birthe Marie Schrøder
Children: Lars Christian, Maren Sofie
Other Family: Oscar and Tena, grandchildren

Details: Ole is a little odd, as I know a lot and at the same time very little about him. I have both his wedding record to his wife and his daughter's birth record, and know that he came here to the states about the time his daughter was born. I know that he had a farm here in Minnesota, and that he had a son and a two grandchildren here in the states, and that their branch ended with them, at least according to my great-great uncle, Hans.

Unlike the story I told in his first entry, it seems his story is quite different from what I thought. Originally, I thought that Ole came to the US after his daughter was born, and left behind his wife and child. But then I came across a record for another child by his wife, a son, who I then discovered came to the US as well. So now, until I am certain, I have two possible stories: the first is that he came to the states to prepare a home for his family, and while he was gone, his wife died, so he came to retrieve his son, but his daughter was left behind for whatever reason. OR he left with his son after her death, and left his daughter behind. Either way, it was not a good story for his daughter. There is a family story that says he sent her a vase, and that has been passed around by her descendants in Denmark as a sort of bad taste family joke.

The people I'd learned of from my great-great uncle's interview by my grandmother and her siblings made me misunderstand his relationship to Oscar and Tena, but after finding their father, and realizing who he was, I now have Oscar and Tena in the right place in my family tree. I still don't know anything about Ole's parents and possible siblings, though, and I still don't have dates for his birth or death as of yet, so I still have a long way to go. I'd love to know more about his story, and where exactly he lived in Minnesota.

Proof:
1) My initial proof for Lars comes from his wedding record to Birthe in 1851. It gives no parents, unfortunately.
2) My next is from their daughter's baptism record in 1855. It doesn't prove he was in Denmark at that point, but it at least confirms he is Maren Sofie's father.
3) The next bit of info is an interview with my great-great uncle Hans, in which he mentions him once or twice, mostly about how he went to his farm after coming to the US.
4) And the last bit is in a few letters between my grandmother and her sister about the Hansen family, one of which specifically mentions his desertion of his wife and daughter, though it makes no mention of her other two daughters from a previous marriage, so I'm not sure if they knew about them.

New Proofs I have found of Ole:
5) The birth record of his son, Lars Christian Olsen in 1852 in Denmark.
6) We have found a census record for Ole that lists him with his wife, her two daughters from her first marriage, and their son Christian, in 1855.
7) Then I have a birth record for Maren Sofie in 1855 listing both her parents.
8) There is also a record of a stillbirth in late 1857, only four months before Birthe Marie died. So either she died due to complications, or that loss left her so devastated, she killed herself. Which would make sense why Ole would leave the country after that. Though it still doesn't explain why he would leave his daughter behind.
9) The death record for Birthe Marie in 1858.
10) I also have a confirmation record for Christian in 1866 which lists both Ole & Birthe Marie, which has Christian in Denmark still.
11) Then I have a record of Ole in the Lutheran Church in America that records his son's marriage in 1877, and lists him as well as his deceased wife.
12) There is also Maren Sofie's Confirmation record which lists both her parents in 1869.

Needed:
I have gotten no further with birth or death dates for Ole, but I have been working on it, as has my father's cousin who lives in Minnesota, so hopefully someday we will find more. I still don't know exactly when he first came to the states, and will have to continue to look for him in US Censuses, especially now that I know his son was here in the states as well, at the latest in 1877. I'd still love to know the names of his parents and any other siblings he might have had.

If my family or anyone out there has any more information on his family, I'd love to talk to you about him. I'd love to learn more if at all possible.

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Brick Wall People Redux – Part 8 – Maren Rasmussen (Rasmusdatter)

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Name: Maren Rasmussen
Birth: September 18, 1817 in Alsted, Denmark.
Death: Sometime after 1880, which was the last census I have been able to find her in.
Marriage: before 1841, which is about when their first child was born.
Location(s): Alsted, Denmark
Relation to me: Maren Rasmussen is my paternal grandmother's mother's father's mother, which makes her 6th generation before me.
Alias(es): None known at this time.
Parents: Rasmus Troelsen & Lisbet Nielsdatter

Spouse(s): Hans Nielsen
Children: Hanne, Sophie, Ole, Niels, Maren, Rasmus, Jorgen, Niels, Anders, Jens, Ane Lisbeth
Other Family: Siblings: Mathias, Jens, Truels, Bodil, Niels, Hans; grandfather: Neils Pedersen

Details: I know a great deal more about Maren now, like her husband, though in her case, all her information is from Family Search. I haven't done much of my own looking into her because of this, and will have to look into her information more deeply, as before this all I was certain of was from her son's birth records and the Census records I found on this family in the Danish Census records. Until I've looked into her more, I will have to hold judgement, but right now, she's got a lot more information than I had before.

Proof:
1) My initial proof for Maren came from Rasmus's birth record found at Family Search, but I was unable to confirm it until I had found several of the Census records I now have.
2) My major proof for both Maren and her husband, as well as much of the rest of this branch of the family, comes from Census records, starting in 1850, and going through to the 1880 Danish Census. After that, I have no records of this family at all aside from Rasmus and his family.

New Proofs I have found of Maren:
3) I now have a birth record that lists a birthdate and parents, which is in the right location.
4) I have a birth record for several of her sons, which lists her and her husband.
5) I also have her son Rasmus's confirmation record, which also lists her and her husband.

Needed:

I have no exact death information yet for Maren, and I'm not 100% sure of what is on Family Search, but given what I do have, I'm about 75% sure of her parents, at least. I will have to dig through the proof on the site at some point, as I think there are some records there that don't belong to her, but given that her tree goes back before her parents a little now, I think she can be put on the back burner.

That said, if my family or anyone out there has any more information on this family, I'd love to talk to you about it. I'd love to learn more.

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Brick Wall People Redux – Part 7 – Hans Nielsen

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Name: Hans Nielsen
Birth: March 9, 1816 in Knudstrup, Denmark.
Death: March 10, 1893, Sorø, Denmark
Marriage: 1844
Location(s): Alsted, Denmark
Relation to me: Hans Nielsen is my paternal grandmother's mother's father's father, which makes him 6th generation before me.
Alias(es): None known at this time.
Parents: Niels Andersen & Ane Marie Rasmussen
Spouse(s): Maren Rasmussen
Children: Hanne, Sophie, Ole, Niels, Maren, Rasmus, Jorgen, Niels, Anders, Jens, Ane Lisbeth
Other Family: Siblings: Kirsten, Anders, Maren, Jorgen, Christian, Christiane, Inger, & Catherine; Anders Hansen & Inger Jensen and Rasmus Rasmusen Ibsen & Sidse Nielsdatter, grandparents.

Details: As you can see if you read the original entry, my knowledge of Hans has grown by leaps and bounds. Not only does he have parents, but he has grandparents, and even great grandparents, siblings, aunts and uncles, and so much more. I still have limited records on him, but what I do know goes so much further back in time. The Census records I have found on this family gave me much of the information I now have. It looks as though he was farming the land that my great-great grandfather eventually took over and ran until his death shortly before 1900. He seems to have handed off the farm to Rasmus before his death, as he and his wife are listed on one Census as the "elder farmer" (for lack of a better term), and on another all on their own.

Proof:
1) My initial proof for Hans came from Rasmus's birth record found at Family Search, but I was unable to confirm it until I had found several of the Census records I now have.
2) My major proof for both Hans and his wife, as well as much of the rest of this branch of the family, comes from Census records, starting in 1850, and going through to the 1880 Danish Census. After that, I have no records of this family at all aside from Rasmus and his family.

New Proofs I have found of Hans:
1) I have a birth record for him listing his parents, which confirms his birthdate at March 9, 1816.
2) I also have his confirmation record in 1830, which also lists his parents.
3) And I have his wedding record, listing his wedding date to Maren as December 15, 1843.
4) I now have a marriage record for one of his daughters that lists him as her father.
5) I have a conformation record for Rasmus Hansen, which lists his parents.
6) I have several birth records for his children.
7) And also some confirmation records for one of his children.

Needed:
This isn't a detailed listing of all the information I have on Hans, but as you can see, his line goes back far enough, and the information I have on him is detailed enough that I really have no need to focus on him anymore. At least not for a while. So here's to success story number two.

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Brick Wall People Redux – Part 6 – Hannah Griffiths

Hannah Griffiths ca 1926 with her daughter
in law, both daughters, and two grandsons
Name: Hannah Griffiths
Birth: 1844, Newcastle Emlyn, Wales
Death: 1933, Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Marriage: before 1866, in Wales
Location(s): Newcastle Emlyn, Wales; Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Relation to me: Hanna Griffiths is my maternal grandmother's paternal grandmother, which makes her 5th generation before me.
Alias(es): None known at this time.
Parents: Thomas Griffiths & Frances Bowen
Spouse(s): Benjamin Jones
Children: John, Joseph, Daniel, David, William, May, Sophia
Other Family: Siblings: David, John, Mary, Elizabeth, Anne, Margaret, Jane, and Frances; William Bowen & Margaret (no surname known), grandparents.

Details: Like Benjamin, the majority of information I have on Hannah comes from my grandmother. She was lucky enough to travel to Wales with her family once before her grandmother's death, and told me often about meeting her and being allowed to sleep with her in her bed during that visit. I only know a slight bit more about her than I do about her husband, though I have a great deal more pictures of her. As I said, she continued to run the Post Office in Merthyr Tydfil after her husband's death. I also know she blamed herself for her son Davey's death, as he ran into a lake to catch her hat one day when he was still recovering from a cold or the flu, and fell sick with pneumonia, and died.

I now have a much more precise list of her children, though their ages are still not perfect, I think. Other than that, I know little about her, and would love to learn how she came to Merthyr Tydfil from Newcastle Emlyn.

Proof:
1) Like Benjamin, all my details on Hannah in my family tree came from my grandmother, and through her father. Beyond that, I had no specific proof for many years.
2) My first actual proof came from the record of my great-grandfather's death on Family Search, which lists Hannah as his mother. I assume this came from my grandmother or one of her siblings, as with Benjamin.
3) Like I said above, we have many photos of Hannah, both from her life in Wales after Daniel's departure, as well as his visit back with his family.
4) And I also have the stories I mentioned from my grandmother about her visit. There are not many of them, but there are a few that I do recall.

New Proofs I have found of Hannah:
5) Like Benjamin, I have many Census records listing her. The first is the 1851 Census, with her parents and siblings.
6) The 1861 Census lists her with her mother Frances and her sister, Frances and a niece, Naomi.
7) She's then listed in the 1871 with her husband and eldest two sons, John and Joseph.
8) The 1881 lists her and Benjamin with their eldest three sons, David, Joseph, and John.
9) The 1891 has six of their seven children listed: David, John, Daniel, William, Mary, and Sarah.
10) And the 1901 lists six again: Joseph, John, Daniel, William, Mary, and Sarah.
11) Then she is listed in her son Daniel's Wedding record.
12) And also in Daniel's death record.

Needed:
I have more precise BMD information for Hannah than for her husband, though I still need their wedding record. It would be nice to have more exact information for her birth and death info as well. I need to sort through the census records and get her kids' ages sorted out, but that will come with time.

But overall? Hannah's my first success story, as far as I'm concerned. I now have both her parents' names, and also the names of her siblings, and all her children sorted, I believe. So I'm actually quite happy with my knowledge about her now. Which means that she's no longer a brick wall. I'll be jumping another generation back to continue this family line.

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Brick Wall People Redux – Part 5 – Benjamin Jones

Benjamin with his wife (standing) and daughters May and Sophia


Name: Benjamin Jones
Birth: December 24, 1836 in Caio, Wales.
Death: before 1915, Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Marriage: before 1882, in Wales
Location(s): Caio, Wales; Merthyr Tydfil, Wales
Relation to me: Benjamin Jones is my maternal grandmother's paternal grandfather, which makes him 5th generation before me.
Alias(es): None known at this time.
Parents: David Jones & Mary, whose surname is unknown at this time.
Spouse(s): Hannah Griffith
Children: John, Joseph, David, Daniel, William, May, Sophia
Other Family: Joseph Jones, brother

Details: Ben is the first of the people on my original list that I've gotten another generation back on his tree. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten far back enough to really call this a complete success. I know his parents' names, but nothing more about them, and in his mother's case, I don't have a maiden name. The majority of information I had on Benjamin before came from my grandmother, only knew of him from her father, as he died before she was born. I do know that he and his wife apparently ran the post office in Merthyr Tydfil, and that Hannah continued to run it even after his death. I have now found several Census records for he and his family, which helped a lot in sorting out the family members, but still left a lot of questions.

Aside from what I already knew, and what I've found in the census records, I really know nothing about this man. I don't know how he moved from Caio to Merthyr Tydfil, or when and where he married his wife, or if he always worked in the post office, or anything else.

Proof:
1) All my details on Benjamin in my family tree came from my grandmother, and through her father. Beyond that, I had no specific proof for many years.
2) My first actual proof came from the record of my great-grandfather's death on Family Search, which lists Benjamin as his father. I assume this came from my grandmother or one of her siblings, but it at least is a more concrete proof of Benjamin's existence than the family tree I had.
3) The last piece of proof I have is from family photos dating to around the turn of the century, one of which shows Benjamin with his wife and daughters. I do not believe we have any other shots of him, but it is lovely to have the one we do have.

New Proofs I have found of Benjamin:
4) I found a baptism record for him with his parents' names, which confirms his birthdate as December 24th 1836.
5) I also have several Census forms listing him. The first is the 1871 Census, where he is shown with his wife and their eldest two sons, John and Joseph. This one was taken in Merthyr Tydfil, so I know he was there by then, at the very latest.
6) I have a second 1871 record that if it correct, shows him in the household of a Joseph Jones. Given he had a son named Joseph, and this record also lists a mother for both named Mary. It's possible with the commonness of the names, this is not a correct record, but until I know for certain otherwise, I will assume he was visiting the day the Census taker came to his brother's house.
7) The 1881 Census lists him as a Grocer, and their family has grown to three sons: David James, Joseph, and John Joseph. They also have a servant living with them.
8) The 1891 Census they have six children listed: David J, John J, Daniel T (my great-grandfather), William N, Mary A, and Sarah S.
9) The same six children are listed in the 1901 Census, with no further additions.
10) I also found that he is listed on the wedding record for his son Daniel.
11) He is also listed on Daniel's death record.

Needed:
The censuses tell me there were seven children, if I understand them correctly. And the second 1871 Census is less certain, but with the names, I have to believe that is also him.

I have an exact birth record for Benjamin, but I don't have his marriage or death information as of yet. I know I could pay for it, as it should be available on the UK BMD records website, along with marriage information for he and Hannah. This is obviously my next step for this branch, but given how much I've found on Ancestry, I will continue to look there first. I'd love to know more about his life, especially life before Merthyr Tydfil, and about his parents, how many siblings he might have had, and how he met Hannah.


At that's what I have on Benjamin. Though I've found his parents' names, I still don't have his mother's maiden name, so until I do, I'm not going to consider this brick wall solved. If you're a member of the Jones family who knows more about him, I'd love to hear the stories you have, and I'd love to share what I have as well. Please feel free to contact me.

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Brick Wall People Redux – Part 4 – Feige Golda Reich


Name: Feige Golda Riech
Birth: about 1868
Death: November 26, 1932
Marriage: Before 1890
Location(s): Czudek, Galicia (Poland); Frankfurt, Germany
Relation to me: Feige Golda Reich is my paternal grandfather's maternal grandmother, which makes her 5th generation before me.
Alias(es): none known
Parents: unknown
Spouse(s): Benzion Kresch
Children: Naftali Mendel, Dora, Minna, Hiam (uncertain of the spelling at this time), Esther/Erna, Aaron
Other Family: No other direct family known.

Details:
I have a bit more about Feige than I did the last time I posted these. For once, I actually have a death record for her. Other than that, though, I have no Birth or Marriage information on her aside from what I have gotten from family, so those dates for her are vague at best. I do know she lived a good deal of her life in Czudek, and raised her children there, then moved to Frankfurt after her husband's death. I also know that she lived until the early thirties. But other than raising possibly five children in a small town in Galicia, I know very little else about her life.

Proof:
1) Like the rest of my Jewish great-grandparents, I got all my information on Feige from my grandfather. Up until my sister and I started a book about our family, this was most of the information I had on her.
2) As stated above, I also have one photo of her with a note on the back from my great grandmother stating that this was her mother during her time in Frankfurt, and that she died sometime in the late twenties.
3) Like Benzion, she is also mentioned in the Hillinger Family book. It mentions Benzion was a teacher, and at least two place names: Czudek and Czendei in Galicia. Unfortunately, I don't know where Czendei might be, but I have at least found Czudek on a map.
4) She is also listed on her son's immigration record to Brazil. She is only mentioned on it, but it gives Mendel's birth as Czudek, so that is confirmed, at least.
5) My last piece of information is the wedding invitation in the Hillinger family book. It lists her as inviting people to attend her daughter's wedding. She and Leon are the two parents on the invitation, so that has led me to assume that they were the only parents the couple had alive at the time.

New Proofs I have found of Feige:
6) I now have the death record for Feige. It is in German, but after going through it, I am fairly certain it doesn't list parents or a birthplace. Still, it gives me an absolute date and location for her death.
7) She also appears on the record for her son Mendel's wedding.
8) And she is listed on her daughter Dora's Social Security record.
9) She is also listed on Mendel's Brazilian Immigration record.
10) The last record I have for her is that she is listed on Dora's death record.

Needed:
Except for her death record, I have almost no great new records for Feige. Aside from her death record, I still need her birth and marriage dates, as I can only speculate at those dates at this moment. I have no clue where to even start looking for information for her, as most of the paperwork recording her life events was likely destroyed by the Nazis. If there were any records for her in Czudek, those are likely long gone, too.

Like with Benzion, I would also love better records about her children. I am lucky to have what I do, but I would love to know more, despite the difficulties that finding such records will cause. I would love to learn about her family as well; parents, siblings, and ancestors. I speculate that she was born in Czudek, as most people didn't travel far from home, especially women at that time and in that area. They tended to move in family groups or not at all. But unless I find records, I am unlikely to find out more.


That's everything I have. I'd love to know more about her, especially about her ancestors, but I am pleased with the small amount of new information I have found for her. As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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About this blog

This blog is maintained by two sisters who have had a life long interest in geneology.
Mika writes here mostly about our family (Hansen, Hillinger, Bordewick, Park, etc), and her search for more information.
Shannon mostly uses this space as a place to make the many stories written about and by her husband's family (Holly, Walker, Walpole, etc) available to the rest of the family, present and future.

Our blog is named Oh Spusch! mostly because Shannon is bad at naming things. The first post I put up includes a story about the time Walker's great grandfather took his whole family out to see a play and the littlest kept saying "Oh! Spusch!" No one ever figured out what she meant by that.